Living With The Wolf Man

Namaste' all hope everyone has had an amazing summer, its gone by as usual too quickly out here I have pics of the creation of yet another wolf habitat to post, and a few blogs to post about when I get some extra time so enjoy this for now. I also wish to say THANK YOU to the kind gentleman that left a message on my answering machine. Imagine my surprise to hear someone care about me continuing to write in this ol blog. I had tears well up actually. So thank you ever most kindly for that kind of support dear sir.

I have recently more or less ignored commenting when asked about a particular program airing on National Geographic. National Geographic was always an icon to me growing up, something I looked up to as a child, for who didn't revel in seeing their programs occasionally, or reading their books?

I think I have been in purgatory shock, and needed time to chew on the latest for a while before I spit it out, to be recycled by one of the wolf's here, remember the 3 R's my friends (Reduce, Re-Use and Recycle *grin)

So I am going to chew this a bit more, and spit it out to reduce my sense of frustration ,so that legend can quickly snatch it up and re-use it *yum yum he says!* where then it then can come out on it's own unsweet natural time, to be recycled by the dung bugs.! *grin* See all creatures in life are needed.

Many SERIOUS professionals that work with wolves, will work hard to not misrepresent what a wolf is, that means no sugar coating, yet at the same time walking the fine line of not attaching other just as harmful labels to create sensationalism.

Lets face it compared to the human species wolves actually could be considered quite docile, and extremely limited when it comes to violence and extremism, for they simply don't have the ego our species were so blessed with to create such things, just because they can.

The program I speak of today is called "Living with the Wolf Man" starring Shaun Ellis, and now his latest love Helen Jeff's, whom has joined the ranks with Shaun and his pack. http://animal.discovery.com/tv/wolfman/about/

Shaun strikes me as a simple, yet complex man , (nothing wrong with that) but whom has been brought into the spotlight due to less than conventional methods of raising some wolf pups in captivity, (wolves that were not orphaned out of the wild, but captive wolves, where wolf pups are born and pulled so they are socialized to humans) This method is not unlike many other wolf facilities (including my own) whom wish to make life less stressful, and a little easier on the animals, than if left to be completely wild in a domesticated situation.

However, it is not as simple as this being a case of just less conventional, or I would not be touching any of this story at all, for I am a big believer, and promoter of everything holy unconventional.

I have watched the first program in this new series with Shaun, and I would have found it entertaining as in "What a great cartoon!" type of entertainment, sadly this was no cartoon, and I found it so full of ignorance, I could not possibly laugh. This program contained not just unconventional methods, but potentially dangerous ones, of a line I feel people simply should not cross, one of respect and honor for what another species is.

At the same time, I could not help but be fascinated and my eyes glued to the screen watching this. I had to sit there and question myself incredulously as to why. I mean it goes against everything I believe in or most of what I do in regards to upbringing a wild animal in captivity.

I would think I should have been turned off by what I saw, but I wasn't, and that is the student in me I guess, wishing to explore all areas of life, and what others have to teach, even if it seems to go against the common path and mainstream way. Even if it seems to anger me, or make me feel utter disbelief. I wanted to reach out beyond my initial feelings with this, and explore it.

But I also have to address the concerns. If this was some private place, without children being subjected to this sort of education it would be easy to turn away, and hope for the best that the person didn't learn a true lesson someday of winding up dead in a serious challenge.

But then again, that fall out would be just as harmful as well to wolves in general. I am all for being different and pushing the envelope in life, we all in our life do things, say things, that may not be considered the *right* thing to do or say. That is the beauty of evolving and discovery or self and of living truly free.

But there is a sacred line, one unseen, and when crossed can create not just a personal (samsara) hell, (which is the responsibility of the persons own choices) but that CAN have a ripple effect, and when ones own choices affects another's in such a way as to cause harm, it crosses that line. Has Shaun physically harmed anyone? NO, Shaun appears to truly love the animals in his care, this is obvious to me. I am not talking that kind of harm, harm comes in various ways, including educational harm.

Here is a man whom obviously likes the spotlight , he is good at it, (the camera loves him! ) and he is the right personality for that kind of thing, he has a gift in that sense (I can see kids loving this guy in factual presentations, heck I like the guy even, seriously, I do and I have not even met him) I would gladly embrace this man and invite him into my home with ease, as I truly do believe no matter, I still am a student not just a teacher in life. So would never pass up the opportunity of meeting another in the middle.

Respect of everything wild means simply leave all ego at the doorway to the soul ;0) it means when out even trekking in it, that there should be an awareness that this is a shared world, and one where another should at all times take heed, and hold respect close.

I want to take apart the description of what the newest program is about, it may not reach as many people as I would like, but I owe it to my own wild friends and ongoing work.

I want to make it clear this is not about Shaun Ellis or Helen Jeff's, they are who they are and I have no problem with people being THEMSELVES. They both appear to be fun loving people, good people, that care. But people in any educational sector, where they are looked to as a source of factual information, have a GREAT responsibility to those that may become students, whom may then also turn around and repeat what they hear and see, to become teachers. I cannot turn away as someone who owns and operates, a licensed pure wolf center, and whom has worked professionally as an educator for a number of years.

Those whom hold great responsibility, hold great power!

If anyone were to go off into the wild, get down on all fours and act wolf to try and be *accepted* into a wild wolf pack, they (the wolves) would either think this is one crazy scary dude I'm outta here, or rip them to pieces.

Wolves, and many other wild critters when raised from bottle-feeding stage, automatically accept and bond to those that rear them, (even if another species) and unless you break a trust (easy to do with wolves as they are much less forgiving than your dog is) you will always be accepted.

I don't have to smell, and act like them, in order to have them accept me into their world, in order for me to see all sides to who they are. They don't keep all they know from me like a human being would, because they want to keep all their *wild* secrets, within the ranks of their *own kind*. They speak to me every day, and I have seen all sides to what makes them tick. Wolves don't have the ego/ability to lie and hide who they are. Their ways are not shown and taught, to only those whom try and act like them. I am addressing some points in this article about Shaun http://animal.discovery.com/tv/wolfman/about

1.) You do not interrupt a wolfs keen sense of smell if you have any sugar. There has never actually been any scientific studies to prove such a thing. (Sugar is not good for YOU, and has the ability to impact your own immune system for hours at a time when consumed, but will NOT disturb a wolfs keen sense of smell as is stated in the above article at animal discovery (they make sugar sound like kryptonite ) You do NOT need to EAT like a wolf in order to be accepted by a wolf, and it definitely won't keep you safe if you eat like them, as is stated in the first episode of this series.

2) If after three years the wolves have been around her as is stated, and have come to know who she is, even if they have met through the fence, and she has able to pet them via that means with no signs of aggression shown towards her, or approached her without signs of aggression, they have accepted her presence.

3) It is stated you ruin your chances of being accepted in the pack if you wear different smells like perfume, that you need to smell the same way to the wolves all the time. I don't wear perfume, or other scents to mask my own smell. But I do believe in just keeping clean (bathing) and allowing my own scent to be a part of me, but if some caretaker wears perfume, they can expect to most likely just be rolled on (or the animal attempt such,) by trying to rub their bodies all over yours! thus a possible jumping up on you to do it, and licked a lot. (Just brace yourself and prepare for it) This is no big deal for an experienced steward. Wearing different smells wont ruin your chances of being accepted. I do like to occasionally put fruit essences on my neck from the health food store, and I smell fruity, I then receive extra special kisses of course.

I don't have to wear the same smelly clothing over and over again without it being washed. In fact there is a very serious danger in giving the advice, of always wearing the same clothing around the animals, and not changing it. IF you have taken this advice, and this is how you work with wolves (always the same jacket, boots, etc all the time every day) then if you were to suddenly change items, you could present that as a test/possible challenge to a wolf. Wolves pay extra special attention to articles they have not smelt, or seen before. If you have always worn the same jacket every day of that animals life, and suddenly come out in a new one, the wolf may wish to examine that literally, and grab it off you, that could draw in the others to do the same, and it could turn into piggy in the middle! (Don't think this could happen? well it has happened to people including a story I can tell myself)

SPECIAL NOTE:When a wolf is a pup you need to mix it up! they need to be subjected consistently every single day to different objects, including different ways you wear your hair. Wear hair in pony tails, up, loose, etc, wear different jackets of different clothing material, from leather to jean, even if pups are raised in the spring /summer/ fall, you should be handling them wearing anything from sandals, to big winter boots, from mitts of all types of material to gloves, to toques and other various hats placed on your head to keep warm, like ski masks. It is IMPORTANT!

I have personally rescued two wolves in the past , where they both had the same neurosis for white knit gloves! that is because their handlers ONLY EVER used leather work mitts, they also had an extra special fondness for baggy sweaters, and jackets. I can wear *anything* around any of the wolves *I* have personally raised, but these wolves, NOT so, and I found out the hard way, of just how the wrong ways were used in raising these two particular animals. They would grab these things right on your body and hands *this is potentially dangerous!* nothing could break them of this either. I came to quiz the former handlers, well just as I had suspected they always wore the exact same kind of jacket and mitts around them, creating a fixation on anything else that differed, from THOSE types of things /materials.

4) It has been stated that Helen risks her very life (hype and drama) to be *accepted*by the pack, and in particular a certain female wolf within that pack. First off look at the picture at this site http://animal.discovery.com/tv/wolfman/about of them quite happy and content side by side with a wolf putting Helen's life in danger, now if a wolf gets this close to you , they have *accepted* you, if they (*Shaun and Helen) mean *ACCEPT* as another wolf, that will never happen a wolf knows a human is NOT wolf, and though they may apply wolf rules to your physical person if you INSIST on trying to be a different species of animal and gain an acceptance that is simply not possible, you will pay for that as Shaun has in the form of a bloody face and gashes.

5) Adult wolves do not normally regurgitate for each other! They don't sit around chewing up raw or cooked meat, and spitting it back up for adult wolves to scarf up out of their mouths. Wolves are very protective of their food towards other adults within the pack. If an omega has laid claim to *their* share, they will guard it religiously, even from the alpha. Now they wont think your crazy (even if you are) but it serves NO purpose other than them thinking, "Oh thanks! you have food to offer? I'll take it!" You simply put your delicate furless face at risk for being sliced up by razor wire, as they exuberantly take it out of your mouth that's all.

6) The biggest, strongest wolf in the pack is not necessarily the lead wolf. A human that works with wolves does not have to have a great amount of strength and size (Like Shaun obviously has) in order to maintain a respect. I am 5'1 I work out two hours every day, and lead a very healthy active lifestyle, but lets just say many 12 year olds are bigger than me!!!! Leadership is a way of holding yourself. I have seen some very small wolves hold the position of alpha for a great many years. If a wolf is a bully alpha in a pack, they will eventually be taken out/or displaced by the rest of the pack, for they will get tired of a bully. Because I eat lots of vegetables and fruits does not mean I will be seen as an omega by my pack, or no longer accepted. I am a human they are wolves. I do not place myself into a position of acting wolf cause I am not one. I dont want them to treat me like their own kind.

Regurgitation is an instinctual behavior, displayed in adult wolves towards pups starting around 3 weeks of age, for they cannot rip meat off bones yet, thus the mother and other members of the pack throw up partially digested food for them. Adult wolves typically will not do this with each other.

How do any of the above statements have anything to do with respect or acceptance?

Shaun has chosen to not only place *himself* at continual risk in my professional opinion, but also Helen by making her act like himself, and to act like a wolf, when humans are not equipped to have the same mind frame and physical attributes as a wolf. No matter how much a person TRIES to put themselves in *THAT PLACE* , they do not have the same mind frame period, it is acting, like one sees with any actor in the movies. Helen is Not Shaun either, and Shaun gets way with HIS wolves doing certain things, another may get into trouble with, in doing the same things.

I didn't even need to watch this first program to know the wolves accept them both, otherwise the wolf in the picture beside them both (can be seen in the url I provide) would be pawing the ground like a bull, with hackles stiff as porcupine quills and huffing and puffing up one heck of a dirt storm in his/her path. Or running away terrified. Maybe a combination of both even.

A wolf makes it VERY clear when they don't like someone, or won't accept them, and one thing I have learned is if a wolf does not accept you from the start, they NEVER will, you cannot regurgitate enough food to convince them otherwise! If you meet a wolf in captivity where their energy instantly clashes with yours, you can't make enough nice...sorry.

I am including a few photos of my pure Dharma, seeing someone she doesn't like, and NEVER will.*grin* no matter how many hot dogs are given to her, she'll take your hotdog and then proceed to charge you if you turn your back. The series of photographs are of a wolf's (My Dharma's) highly agitated state upon seeing someone (a person) she does not like, and hasn't since puppyhood. This person has NEVER hurt her, or done a single harmful thing to her, she simply dislikes him. Her emotions will go back and forth, she is very fearful and the fear periodically turns to bouts of aggressive behavior due to this fear. I literally took 300 photos of the interaction but can only post a few here to give you an idea.

Dharma can hear the person's voice and recognizes it, her hackles go up.

Here is a closer shot where you can see the raised dorsal cape (just below the shoulder blades) and her neck ruff. Entire body is held stiff and rigid.

Here she quickly backed up in fear note her tail tucked and her body slightly lowered ready to spring into action.Every once in a while someone will spot wolf language in action unknowingly. "Why is so and so looking up, and why do they keep moving their heads like that as if to the sky?" Well, This is a highly agitated sign, a really confident wolf may lay down or stand, either close to, or a distance from the thing upsetting them, with their backs away from, or facing the person head on that is agitating them, and slowly make a movement with their neck and head as if looking to the sky. In this case Dharma is too fearful and agitated to lay still, so she is moving around and I catch her in this photo looking up slightly. The head toss is a very slow subtle movement. It can vary from what you see in this picture, all the way to the head being placed in such a position where the muzzle is pointing straight up, as if the animal is going to howl but doesn't .
Have you ever watched your dog go into a play bow? Well wolves will also *play/test bow* as well, similar to your dog, and it not mean anything but instigating a play/test session. But when displayed in context with anxiety/fear/aggression/agitation, the bow is far from playful. An agitated wolf will paw the ground like a bull using either one front paw, two front paws and come up from the bow, or use all four paws to scratch at the ground. Dharma used all forms during her agitation in these pictures. This is an aggressive sign.

Here she is getting ready to scratch at the ground her stare is hard and focused and she is consistently pursing her lips together, eliciting a very soft puff sound coming out. Wolves will also make a very rapid puffing sound over and over, like a oof, oof sound, along with occasional deep short alarm barks. She performed both the fast puffing/blowing sound ,as well as the very soft , slow, whisper puff and blow
Here you can see the ground just in front and gathered under her paw, as she brings it up Here above Dharma is in a complete bow right before bringing both legs up scratching, her stare hard and focused.
Look closely at her eyes and mouth, this is what I mean by a HARD stare, it is direct and unflinching, she is not avoiding eye contact but has this person in her direct line of sight. Because I was so close to her I could hear a VERY soft (oof, sound come out like a breathy whisper)
Here she launches into a full blown alarm howl/bark the sound is more choppy in sound. Note tail tuck.
I had the person of her oh so fond affections, turn their back as if to walk away and then she sprang into action and ran at the fence towards the person very intent/focused. Her fear, temporarily taking back seat to the attack mode she launches into here, brought on by the fear towards the person.
As the person *appears* to be moving away her hackles flatten slightly, she lowers her body closer to the ground, tail only slightly tucked and kinked to one side showing apprehension and wariness. Her ears slightly flattened back. Her entire posture is undecided in how to feel and she has conflicting feelings occurring. She is ready to move swiftly within a nano second if need be. Wolves have the reflexes of super race car drivers.
Here Dharma proceeds to mark out of fear, nervousness and instinct. This is her territory she wants this scary person to know it.

The person has now gone, but Dharma remains on fairly high alert for an hour afterwards

Shaun has gotten by (not without being scathed mind you ;0) i.e bloodied up face ) despite of , not because of his methods. It has worked for him with HIS personal private wolf group, up to this point.

Apply ANY of his methods on any wolf he did not rear from bottle-feeding stage, his methods could have dire consequences. As it is they still could, someone can go years until one day, the wrong move made too many times for THAT particular personality of animal, and they can and will show you exactly where you went wrong. Heck, if I was getting a bloodied face I would know I was doing something wrong.

It is good to always be inventing outside the box when dealing with wild animals, you cannot *think* only conventional with them, each personality will be different from the next, thus the application may also need to be shifted..

Will I continue to watch this program? yes I will, but only so that I can prepare myself for the ignorant calls and emails I will get from those people who blindly believe what they are seeing, and wish to apply such methods to other wild animals.

I encourage youth to be themselves despite critics out there, to walk to the beat of their own music, created along the journey. But one must also keep in mind that while treading softly on hallowed ground, and going against the grain, that there may be others watching us, whom will also become teachers. That our choices may have consequences for someone else we don't even know. For it is true we are all connected and linked more closely than we even realize.

Wolves have variant personalities, Take any litter and how one pup may respond and react positively to being reared using one method by a handler, the next pup may not necessarily be as open to thus a handler has to dig back into their tool belt of ideas and tricks to pull out and find something that will work. But there are some very basic rules of handling wild animals too and a handler can expand from those basic rules.

I was asked my thoughts a while back from a visitor why there is such a strong connection with wolves for some, this was my summed up response.

I think there is no more a bond with wolf and man than there is with wolf and deer, we are all connected. Any animal species including our own have shared the experience of living amongst natures elements, and surviving them. Humans disconnected from the land or the majority did long ago, but the remnants of those wild relationships forged (both with other animals and nature itself) still remain within our own wild psyche. :0) we sense it, feel it deep within, but it is more like some long ago forgotten siren song now, that still calls to us, to remember. It is such a powerful song we recognize it, but don't.

The wolf still stands for that wild life, that life that is hard and unforgiving in nature, we recognize that life though no longer want it realistically, crave still the beauty within the savagery that exists, when one truly lives WILD. There is also the point to be made of recognition of anything that may have *similar* family structures at least enough to remind us of our own family. All animals know how to instinctively relate to one another, predator and prey.

There is a book written by Raymond Coppinger called Dogs: A Startling New Understanding of Canine Origin, Behavior & Evolution: you would find that book very very interesting I think, and is a number one on my list above. But here's a bit more about that for your eyes
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/episodes/dogs-that-changed-the-world/what-caused-the-domestication-of-wolves/1276/

To sum this series up If people watch this, I hope the program encourages people to do more research. Shaun has not done more than anyone else before to research these predators, as the first program states in this series. Shaun is a novice compared to many whom have lived with and worked with wolves such as The exemplary research facility Wolf Park started back in the 70's by Wolf Biologist Erich Klinghammer and someone I call friend.

I consider only the wolves experts, at the same time I know I have grown over the years to become a professional educator. I don't have enough hands of people and facilities that have all added to understand more about the wolf in a factual no nonsense way. How many have contributed, and I think Shaun has contributed as well regardless of my other views.

I have a video here sent to me by Erich as a gift, and it shows Erich walking right up to a pack of wolves as they are already eating a deer carcass, and proceeds to take a deer by the leg and move it to a different area. He has never had to get down on all fours and pretend to be a wolf in order to be respected by the wolves, they do not attack him as he takes their deer, nor do they even growl at him. You can see nothing but respect between the man and the wolves.

It is said that anything that gets people more interested in wolves even if the info. is not correct is a good thing. YES it is a good by product that more people will be called to learn about this predator. However I do not want to ever pick up a newspaper, and read about someone else going out and buying wolf pups, repeat what Shaun has done, only to wind up dead (because what has worked for Shaun has worked for HIM) As I have stated earlier on with such power of educating, comes a great responsibility.

The positives? I really like they show how to properly house a wolf in captivity, and that they show these animals requiring a lot of enrichment and stimulation, (which they provide) that this is not some backyard in the city, holding wild animals. I like they show the strength, power and seriousness of the wolf, they do not portray them as bengi the dog. These wolves have been well socialized, so they are not stressed in captivity. I have a feeling if I were to visit, the wolves would come right over to me at the fence and I would even most likely get a kiss. I can honestly say it would not be on an account of consuming liver either. ;0) or getting down on all fours so they can make sure I have not consumed any sugar. :0)

What I like about Shaun is that he is not afraid to just be who he wants to be, that is not easy to do. He is his own unique person and is not someone content to be boxed in. I can so easily picture myself even getting along with this man quite well , and for as much uncommon ground between us, there would be found much in common. I would love to ask him in person about his methods of application. I don't think this man is an absolute idiot, like some other professionals I know think he is. I believe there is a lot of ignorant information portrayed in the program true, but on the contrary he is much smarter than others may give him credit for, otherwise he would not be where he is today.

I do wish Shaun Ellis and Helen Jeffs the best of luck however on their life with the wolves, and with each other. The love they both share together is quite obvious as well, I wouldn't eat some of the stuff she eats, for anyone. ;0)

Great lessons come from many sides and perceptions.

So if you watch this new series, take from it what you will, BUT do further research. Shaun's path and perceptions are not absolute, (they simply work for HIM to date) and if you appy the same methods of madness, to wolves in your own care, you may find yourself on the wrong end of some very sharp teeth someday. ;0)

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Surviving With The Wolves

Namaste' all my friend Mike sent me a story link about a new Movie being released, thanks Mike! This movie is based on a book written back in 1990. Although I have a problem with some of the content of this story (seems just not even remotely plausible for the most part) I decided to do some more investigation which I found something titled (fact or fiction) below. I think in order for me to actually engage in such a film, I have to view it more as a little girls traumtic times /tales combined with some imagination and made into a wonderful movie. Than an actual event in it's entirty.

If you go to the main official site http://www.bacfilms.com/site/survivre/ it will take you to some amazingly touching scenes of a little girl (the actress playing misha) with an arctic wolf (well the European version of such) on set, this is the most touching side in the movie being made, as it shows the obvious connection within interaction this wolf had with the actors and directors. Click on (NOTES DE PRODUCTION,) even though this seems more fantasy than reality and I am a huge fan of anything dealing with those times, *WWll* having read many many books and having watched many documentaries from WAY before my time. I still want to see this movie it looks like a STUNNING film with the characters, and just the entire presentation from what I can tell. I would LOVE to see this movie!.

Surviving With The Wolves", a newly released French movie.

Supposedly a true story ~ An extraordinary account.
Misha was only 6 years old when her parents were taken away to Auschwitz. She was given a new name, a new home, forced into new religion. No one ever explained to her why her parents were no longer with her, only that they went East. So, one day, equipped with a compass, a few knives and some provisions, she went East in search of her parents. She crossed Belgium, Germany, Poland and Ukraine, on her own, through wild forests, on foot. She was adopted by a family of wolves. She ate and played with the wolf pups, she was protected by their mother. Thanks to the wolves, she survived the war, and eventually found her way home.
“Surviving with the Wolves” is Misha’s extraordinary story, a story of a child who had seen all atrocities of WWII, for whom wild nature and animals proved safer than humans. universal renown.
Film to be released in 20 countries in 2008.
check out the trailers and photo gallery.
http://tinyurl.com/youxbh



Fact Or Fiction

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=43538

By David Mehegan,Globe StaffIT'S an amazing story. But then, it's often said, all Holocaust survivor stories are amazing.It starts in autumn 1941. A Belgian Jewish girl, age 7, runs away from the family that took her in when her parents were arrested by the Germans. Determined to find her parents, she sets out on foot toward the east.Over the next four years, she wanders through Germany, Poland, and Ukraine, turning south through Romania and the Balkans, hitching a boat to Italy, then walking back to Belgium via France.For most of this time, the girl sleeps in forests and is, for weeks at a stretch, fed and protected by packs of friendly wolves. She joins bands of partisans, sneaks into and out of the Warsaw ghetto, witnesses the execution of children, kills a German soldier with a pocket knife, and finally has a happy reunion at war's end with her Belgian foster grandfather.


That's the story of Misha Levy Defonseca, 67, who today lives in Milford with her husband, two dogs, and 23 cats. Her book, ''Misha: A Memoire of the Holocaust Years,'' was published in 1997 by tiny Mt. Ivy Press, owned by Jane Daniel of Gloucester.ADL Global SmearmongersThe book drew high-profile endorsements by Leonard P. Zakim, late director of the New England Anti-Defamation League (''a scary must-read for anyone interested in the Holocaust''); journalist/historian Padraig O'Malley; and Nobel laureate Elie Wiesel (''very moving'').Though it sold poorly in the United States, ''Misha'' was a surprise bestseller in France and Italy, and aroused interest from Hollywood (Walt Disney) and TV's Oprah Winfrey. But about a year after it was published, everything froze when Defonseca and coauthor Vera Lee sued the publisher for breach of contract, claiming they never got their share of overseas royalties and that the book was never properly marketed in America.


There was a long and bitter battle. Last summer, a Middlesex Superior Court jury found against the publisher, awarding Defonseca and Lee a total of $10.8 million. The legal quarrel has been complex and very public. And it's not over -- a judge must still review the appropriateness of the jury award.Daniel, to this day, rejects all the allegations made by the authors.BUT what has gone almost unobserved is the disquieting subtext of the tale: Can Defonseca's story be believed?Two renowned Holocaust scholars told the Globe they do not believe her story.

They say it's impossible for one child to have been everywhere she says she was, to have witnessed all she did.Odder still, even her coauthor and publisher, while they consider her a remarkable woman with a compelling story, had their doubts. And they still do. Misha, however, remains adamant. ''This is fact, this is history,'' she says.The making of ''Misha'' is almost as curious as the tale it tells. In the mid-1990s, Jane Daniel, then living in Newton, was doing public relations for ''Play It Again Video'' of Needham, which makes keepsake tapes from family photos.The owner's most memorable customer was a woman who had ordered a two-hour video made about her late dog, Jimmy.

The woman was Misha Defonseca.When Daniel heard about Defonseca's childhood odyssey, she smelled a book for her fledgling publishing business. She met with Defonseca and her husband, Maurice, to pitch the idea. Daniel says Defonseca was reluctant at first, but eventually warmed to the idea: ''First she said it would be very painful,'' the publisher said in a telephone interview, ''and then she said she would like to do it for her son.''Defonseca's spoken English is clear (she and her husband came to the States in 1988), but she is no author -- someone would have to help turn a collection of memories into a book. Daniel recruited her neighbor and longtime friend, Vera Lee.A French specialist, Lee was a former professor of romance languages at Boston College and former director of Boston's French Library.

Like Defonseca, Lee says she was reluctant at first, but agreed after her friend ''said I was the only one she could trust.''Lee and Defonseca set to work in 1995. ''We did a lot of talking,'' Lee said during an interview at her home with her and Defonseca. Misha's experiences had happened''over 50 years ago and she had some very vivid recollections of certain episodes and scenes, but naturally there were certain loopholes. I was trying to piece it together in a way that was as true to life as possible. In other word, there had to be transitions: She went to a country, we had to know how did she get to the next one? How did she do her traveling?''So I would write and bring it back to Misha and very often it would jog her memory.

This was a child -- she was not going to have an exact memory of every single thing that happened, yet you had to make a book. And it had to be true to Misha.''Lee says she would write as many as three versions of a chapter, take them to Daniel, they would pore over them together, revise them further, then Lee would bring one back to Defonseca.''I speak French,'' Defonseca says. ''Vera has a tape and she [makes] notes and I tell her the story. And then she brings me the manuscript, I correct and send it back to her. And for me it was a very difficult thing. I had no understanding that she had not been through [experiences such as] this. And for her it was difficult.''Indeed, Lee says that listening to Defonseca's story was often wrenching. To grasp it, she would try to experience things directly. ''At one point, [Misha] ate mud,'' she says, ''and I went out and ate mud to see how it would taste.''To imagine what it must have been like to climb a wall out of the Warsaw Ghetto, which the book describes, ''I was trying to climb this brick wall in front of my neighbor's. I really wanted to understand what she was thinking.

She wanted me to taste raw meat, which I did after she assured me it was from Bread and Circus.''Differences of opinionDaniel began to take a more active writing role, showing the result to Lee. Their disagreements grew. Lee says Daniel wanted the book longer and wanted more sentimental and emotional content. She says she wanted Misha to be in love with somebody, for there to be a romantic twist to the tale.''Misha objected to this,'' Lee says, ''this wasn't the way it was at all, but the publisher wanted this love interest. On every page, I would say 'not Misha, not Misha,' but she would keep it in.''The friction came to a climax in 1996 when Daniel gave Lee a choice of being paid for what she had done thus far, or taking all of her work out of the book. Lee refused the choice and began to talk to a lawyer. Lee says Daniel tried to turn Defonseca against the coauthor, a complaint Daniel dismisses as petty.

What is not in dispute is that Daniel took over the writing and rewriting, and published the book with only Defonseca's name on the cover. Daniel furiously denies all the allegations made by Lee and DeFonseca. She says she intervened in the manuscript to save the project. She maintained in court motions that the manuscript Lee turned in ''contained numerous historical errors ... and the style of writing was too juvenile.''It also came in late, and was much shorter than promised, she alleged. As for the claim that Mt. Ivy shortchanged Lee and Defonseca on royalties, she insists, ''The weight of the evidence does not support the jury's findings.''She said the handling of the overseas royalties conformed to standard publishing practices. ''There was not a dime that was not accounted for,'' she said. That there was money to fence over at all is a tribute to the book's remarkable overseas success.

Though Defonseca got TV and newspaper feature attention, the book got few if any American reviews. But Boston literary agent Ike Williams (then head of Boston's Palmer & Dodge literary agency, since shifted to Hill & Barlow), representing Mt. Ivy, and Lee and Defonseca for foreign print and film rights, had good success overseas.The French version, by Editions Laffont, sold more then 30,000 copies, and the Italian edition, published by Longanesi, sold more than 37,000. There were also Dutch and Japanese editions, and rights were sold to the German publisher Verlag [sic], though apparently the book never made it into print there.Defonseca had a triumphant French tour, with readings and TV appearances.Hollywood callsPoor US sales notwithstanding -- about 5,000 copies were sold -- the outlook was bright for other media. Walt Disney studios paid for a six-month option on a movie, and there were feelers from other movie producers, including Universal Pictures and Henson Productions, as well as a French filmmaker, Marne Productions.

There was television: Defonseca was taped frolicking with wolves at Wolf Park, an Ipswich animal park, by a crew from Oprah Winfrey's program. There were also inquiries from ''20/20'' and ''60 Minutes.''When Defonseca and Lee filed suit in May 1998, this interest faded. The Winfrey segment never aired. The book, ''Misha: A Memoire of the Holocaust Years'' is as real as those who created it and quarreled over it. But lost in the conflict is the question of whether the events it purports to narrate are fact or fiction.

The book was not unknown to Holocaust scholars, in addition to Wiesel, even before it appeared.''It's preposterous,'' says Lawrence L. Langer of Newton, author of numerous books on the Holocaust and considered by many the preeminent authority on survivor narratives. Langer says a woman -- he can't remember who -- called him about ''Misha'' to get his view of it.''She sketched the story and I said, 'Don't do it,''' he recalls. ''She said, 'Why not?' I said, 'because it isn't true.' I said, 'Ask her how she crossed the Rhine, in the middle of the war, when the SS is guarding the bridges at both ends. Find the Elbe on a map and ask how a little girl goes across that river. She speaks no German, she's Jewish, poorly dressed, and no one says, 'Who are you, little girl?' I said it's a bad idea, don't do it, it will prove an embarrassment.''Daniel remembers sending the manuscript to Langer, but not the telephone call.

Langer says he also discussed the story with Vermont-based historian Raul Hilberg, author of ''The Destruction of the European Jews,'' and Hilberg (left) also thought it impossible. Consulted by phone for this story, Hilberg reiterated his disbelief.Boston University professor Wiesel, who blurbed the book (left), was in Israel as this story was written and efforts to reach him through his staff have been unsuccessful. During an interview with the Globe, Wiesel speaksDefonseca affirmed the truth of her story. Indeed, she said she had recorded it before.She repeated the story in her book about how, when she was taken in by two single women after the war, she wrote an account of her odyssey, but the women did not believe it and forced her to burn it. However, she added that she had written it all down again in a diary that she began to keep in her teens. After the French version of her book appeared, ''the French book was so much my real story, the way I am, that I don't need all these fragments and papers. I burned them in a ceremony because, for me, it was accomplished.''Listening to this, Lee appeared to be surprised. When asked if she had used these diaries in preparing the book, she said, ''I didn't know they existed.''In fact, Lee herself was uneasy from the start, especially about Defonseca's way of remembering -- later -- solutions to inconsistencies the interviewer would point out. ''There were doubts,'' she says, ''but so much seemed credible that I couldn't just throw doubt on the whole thing.''Fact or fiction?Still, she was worried enough to call an official (she can't remember his name) of Facing History and Ourselves, the national organization that teaches the Holocaust and its lessons in schools.

She recalls the official told her that if he were her, '''I would not write that, because it's impossible,' and I went back to the publisher and said, 'Do you see a problem?' And she said, 'Don't worry. These are the memoirs of a child.'''Daniel herself became nervous in 1999, when ''Fragments,'' a prize-winning Holocaust memoir by Swiss musician Binjamin Wilkomirski, was proved to be a fake. ''It sent a shudder through the industry,'' Daniel says. ''Up until then, publishers had never been called upon to vet their stories'' to ensure their accuracy.To be on the safe side, she put a defensive memo ''From the publisher'' on the Mt. Ivy Web site. It listed several reasons why Defonseca's story could be true, but then said,''Is Misha's story fact or invention? Without hard evidence one way or the other, questions will always remain.''Daniel now says, ''I have no idea whether it is true or not. My experience is that all Holocaust stories are far-fetched. All survivor stories are miracles.''Holocaust historians, of course, believe it matters a great deal whether a memoir is true.

''Truth matters where the Holocaust is concerned,'' Langer says. ''I have spent years interviewing Holocaust survivors. If people start making up stories, it may make [real witnesses] doubt their memories. It feeds ammunition to the skeptical: that everyone exaggerates. But that's not true.''Misha Defonseca makes a compelling impression, and does not sound like an untruthful person. Asked why she thinks people are skeptical of her story, she says, ''Because it is with animals. People are afraid of animals.''She says she hopes that now that the court has returned all rights to the book to her and to Lee that she will win for it a new and larger American audience. She also still hopes for a movie deal, thinking that somehow her story will reconnect her with the family she lost so long ago.''If there is a movie,'' she says, ''maybe someone can see it and say, 'I know her parents.''' Meanwhile, the other principals to this saga have moved on. Lee is working on a new book about American popular music. Daniel says she has lost faith in the legal system, and has no plans for new book projects. ''I am burned on publishing right now,'' she says. ''I think I'm out of the book business.''© Copyright 2001 Globe Newspaper Company.http://www.fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/stories/Defonseca1.htmlElie Wieselhttp://www.fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/Wiesel/index.html